INFINITE STYLE Shin Akuma

KhrizRodez24 wrote:Hey selfish....got a question....there's still two unfinished characters in infinites collection....that's Maxima and Shen....do you have plans to finish them?....I ask because using them is annoying because there moves sometimes slow the computer down and on top of that there super lengths or obnoxiously long....I'm hoping you or UZIGANG remake them....As from what I can see....you two are our last hope with this project

I only have them with updated backgrounds. I can upload that if you want but their skills are still the same. Also I'm not a fan of shen woo because his spritework is shabby at best.
I'll get around to fixing it but atm I'm thinking of other characters first.

Ok....a background update is still nice....if you can do that that would be awesome....at least they will match the roster until then

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:P.S. The Kick move, the fact that it doesn't always connect isn't really a big problem. Esp since i don't even use it. I also play on Max difficulty so i don't really see a problem with it other than the fact if i don't have any more super Bar.

It always connects but you must use the appropriate strength to combo into it. A difference in combo is -> LP,c.LK,MK,QCF+LK/MK (this will combo) while QCF+HK wouldn't. However if you go -> LP,c.LK,MK,HP,HK,QCF+HK it will connect while QCF+LK or MK won't.

i really need to start proof reading my shiz. The comment about follow-ups some dude made is what i meant. Too much excitement to do this properly lol

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:Any chance to be able to super cancel his Demon Flip?? Mid-Air

Wish granted

Thanks a million. Can't wait to see what his new LVL3 super will be.

XRagingxDemonX wrote:i really need to start proof reading my shiz. The comment about follow-ups some dude made is what i meant. Too much excitement to do this properly lol

I just can't shake the feeling people want to "noobafy" the gameplay. I mean sure if p2 is against a wall you can't jump aerial combo, but if people play fighting games seriously they would realize there are 5 different combo follow-up's are possible but you need timing and skill for it. Not just some random moment where the enemy is stunned for a bajilion seconds and you need half of that to make up you're mind of what to do.
Not being hostile or anything just wanted to point out I have my reasons why not everything can connect into everything.

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:Any chance to be able to super cancel his Demon Flip?? Mid-Air

Wish granted

XRagingxDemonX wrote:Thanks a million. Can't wait to see what his new LVL3 super will be.

Aye, I'm in a bit of a dilemma with this. Would you prefer a "serious" super something involving shoryukens and fireballs? or more of a comical style super?
Imagine Shin akuma taking his 'True God' God kanji (only 5 times larger) symbol and fire it at the enemy ?

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:i really need to start proof reading my shiz. The comment about follow-ups some dude made is what i meant. Too much excitement to do this properly lol

I just can't shake the feeling people want to "noobafy" the gameplay. I mean sure if p2 is against a wall you can't jump aerial combo, but if people play fighting games seriously they would realize there are 5 different combo follow-up's are possible but you need timing and skill for it. Not just some random moment where the enemy is stunned for a bajilion seconds and you need half of that to make up you're mind of what to do.
Not being hostile or anything just wanted to point out I have my reasons why not everything can connect into everything.

i'm not complaining. i don't use it Lol. i don't care XD i was merely agreeing it shouldn't be easily connectable. though i did notice you can't fire a super after it. Purpose??

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:Thanks a million. Can't wait to see what his new LVL3 super will be.

Aye, I'm in a bit of a dilemma with this. Would you prefer a "serious" super something involving shoryukens and fireballs? or more of a comical style super?
Imagine Shin akuma taking his 'True God' God kanji (only 5 times larger) symbol and fire it at the enemy ?

Lol it would look pretty cool or something seeing that happen. Then again it would probably be something i wouldn't use. I'm going to go on a limb and say it should be serious. Capcom has made fun of him enough. I haven't seen much of a threat from Akuma anymore so something more serious would be preferred. idk what it should be. i suggested a beam b/c most of the fireball users have it unless they had some specific move from another game. All of his supers are used up already. Please don't do Demon Armaggedon... i know that is cinematic but infinite did the MVC3 shoryuken. its the worst special ive ever seen in my life. it looks like Tekken 3 with Jin's disappearing abdomen. SFvT's version of Misogi?? or that should be the SDM version of his regular Misogi when he misses... instead of a chop he punches and when he hits the ground all the stuff pops up like his LVL2 super.

Ok this might be dumb but here's an idea for the SDM....what if you took Oni's street fighter 4 super where he either
A.hits the ground with a beam that cinematically flys you up in the air and he flys up after and punchs you and the symbol comes out
Or
B. close range: does his hadoken that on first hit cinematically pushes you far and he throws another beam at you and his signature symbol comes out from his back
Long range: unblockable 5 hit super one beam

Both SSF4AE Oni Supers(see YouTube videos to paint a better pic instead of my discription)

And keep note that all infinites HSDM's are unblockable and can only be parried on first hit to stop or jumped over or rolled/side stepped to avoid

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:i really need to start proof reading my shiz. The comment about follow-ups some dude made is what i meant. Too much excitement to do this properly lol

I just can't shake the feeling people want to "noobafy" the gameplay. I mean sure if p2 is against a wall you can't jump aerial combo, but if people play fighting games seriously they would realize there are 5 different combo follow-up's are possible but you need timing and skill for it. Not just some random moment where the enemy is stunned for a bajilion seconds and you need half of that to make up you're mind of what to do.
Not being hostile or anything just wanted to point out I have my reasons why not everything can connect into everything.

i'm not complaining. i don't use it Lol. i don't care XD i was merely agreeing it shouldn't be easily connectable. though i did notice you can't fire a super after it. Purpose??

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:Thanks a million. Can't wait to see what his new LVL3 super will be.

Aye, I'm in a bit of a dilemma with this. Would you prefer a "serious" super something involving shoryukens and fireballs? or more of a comical style super?
Imagine Shin akuma taking his 'True God' God kanji (only 5 times larger) symbol and fire it at the enemy ?

Lol it would look pretty cool or something seeing that happen. Then again it would probably be something i wouldn't use. I'm going to go on a limb and say it should be serious. Capcom has made fun of him enough. I haven't seen much of a threat from Akuma anymore so something more serious would be preferred. idk what it should be. i suggested a beam b/c most of the fireball users have it unless they had some specific move from another game. All of his supers are used up already. Please don't do Demon Armaggedon... i know that is cinematic but infinite did the MVC3 shoryuken. its the worst special ive ever seen in my life. it looks like Tekken 3 with Jin's disappearing abdomen. SFvT's version of Misogi?? or that should be the SDM version of his regular Misogi when he misses... instead of a chop he punches and when he hits the ground all the stuff pops up like his LVL2 super.

Ye the no supercancel of the kick is on purpose because if you hit you get a wall bounce anyway which is unrecoverable and more favorable to do another move rather then a super since any basic follow-up also provides a guaranteed super.

Atm I'm leaning more towards a projectile but I need to carefully see what I can do because I'm not a spriter and I suck generally at everything involving gfx

KhrizRodez24 wrote:Ok this might be dumb but here's an idea for the SDM....what if you took Oni's street fighter 4 super where he either
A.hits the ground with a beam that cinematically flys you up in the air and he flys up after and punchs you and the symbol comes out
Or
B. close range: does his hadoken that on first hit cinematically pushes you far and he throws another beam at you and his signature symbol comes out from his back
Long range: unblockable 5 hit super one beam

Both SSF4AE Oni Supers(see YouTube videos to paint a better pic instead of my discription)

And keep note that all infinites HSDM's are unblockable and can only be parried on first hit to stop or jumped over or rolled/side stepped to avoid

I'll look into it but I've no clue if there are sprites for it.

Look for gouki by ansatsuken(not sure if that's spelled right)

But he did cool work for his akuma that you could use the sprites from

Selfish wrote:Ye the no supercancel of the kick is on purpose because if you hit you get a wall bounce anyway which is unrecoverable and more favorable to do another move rather then a super since any basic follow-up also provides a guaranteed super.

Atm I'm leaning more towards a projectile but I need to carefully see what I can do because I'm not a spriter and I suck generally at everything involving gfx

alright, all true.

Beam me up scotty??
there is a MVC2 one and a edited MVC2 one. if made bigger it might actually look nice. its like a shin akuma MVC2. ill find the link or upload it myself if you want to get a good Beam for Akuma. That is if you don't find a nice one yourself. which ofc is If you go with one.

(i can't get Akuma to work on 1.0 and some of infinites Char's don't work on 1.1 i have a dilemma)

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:Ye the no supercancel of the kick is on purpose because if you hit you get a wall bounce anyway which is unrecoverable and more favorable to do another move rather then a super since any basic follow-up also provides a guaranteed super.

Atm I'm leaning more towards a projectile but I need to carefully see what I can do because I'm not a spriter and I suck generally at everything involving gfx

alright, all true.

Beam me up scotty??
there is a MVC2 one and a edited MVC2 one. if made bigger it might actually look nice. its like a shin akuma MVC2. ill find the link or upload it myself if you want to get a good Beam for Akuma. That is if you don't find a nice one yourself. which ofc is If you go with one.  

(i can't get Akuma to work on 1.0 and some of infinites Char's don't work on 1.1 i have a dilemma)

What char's dont work on 1.1? I seem to have no troubles here. But if this is about gfx change in 1.1 then yes I've had to adapt 29 of my 110 characters due to them having "black sprites" which is caused by the new 'trans' setting and how the sprites are processed. Still having do to Dragonslayers's jin kazama ^^

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:Ye the no supercancel of the kick is on purpose because if you hit you get a wall bounce anyway which is unrecoverable and more favorable to do another move rather then a super since any basic follow-up also provides a guaranteed super.

Atm I'm leaning more towards a projectile but I need to carefully see what I can do because I'm not a spriter and I suck generally at everything involving gfx

alright, all true.

Beam me up scotty??
there is a MVC2 one and a edited MVC2 one. if made bigger it might actually look nice. its like a shin akuma MVC2. ill find the link or upload it myself if you want to get a good Beam for Akuma. That is if you don't find a nice one yourself. which ofc is If you go with one.  

(i can't get Akuma to work on 1.0 and some of infinites Char's don't work on 1.1 i have a dilemma)

What char's dont work on 1.1? I seem to have no troubles here. But if this is about gfx change in 1.1 then yes I've had to adapt 29 of my 110 characters due to them having "black sprites" which is caused by the new 'trans' setting and how the sprites are processed. Still having do to Dragonslayers's  jin kazama ^^

They work, but the AI doesn't work. since i usually use the same char over and over and fight each other char. i don't know the full list right now. i know sean, mai, maki, Cody, Ryo, Gill (Race's Gill), Robert. ill Edit this post if i find more

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:Ye the no supercancel of the kick is on purpose because if you hit you get a wall bounce anyway which is unrecoverable and more favorable to do another move rather then a super since any basic follow-up also provides a guaranteed super.

Atm I'm leaning more towards a projectile but I need to carefully see what I can do because I'm not a spriter and I suck generally at everything involving gfx

alright, all true.

Beam me up scotty??
there is a MVC2 one and a edited MVC2 one. if made bigger it might actually look nice. its like a shin akuma MVC2. ill find the link or upload it myself if you want to get a good Beam for Akuma. That is if you don't find a nice one yourself. which ofc is If you go with one.  

(i can't get Akuma to work on 1.0 and some of infinites Char's don't work on 1.1 i have a dilemma)

What char's dont work on 1.1? I seem to have no troubles here. But if this is about gfx change in 1.1 then yes I've had to adapt 29 of my 110 characters due to them having "black sprites" which is caused by the new 'trans' setting and how the sprites are processed. Still having do to Dragonslayers's  jin kazama ^^

They work, but the AI doesn't work. since i usually use the same char over and over and fight each other char. i don't know the full list right now. i know sean, mai, maki, Cody, Ryo, Gill (Race's Gill), Robert. ill Edit this post if i find more

very weird the AI on mine works perfectly fine. Do you work with infinite round time or standard round time? The new lvl 3 super will be a new anim stance followed by a gou-hadouken that when it connects stuns the enemy. Akuma will teleport towards the enemy do a couple of kicks and a new gou-shoryuken, jumps in the air and then unleashes a giant diagonal beam.

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:Ye the no supercancel of the kick is on purpose because if you hit you get a wall bounce anyway which is unrecoverable and more favorable to do another move rather then a super since any basic follow-up also provides a guaranteed super.

Atm I'm leaning more towards a projectile but I need to carefully see what I can do because I'm not a spriter and I suck generally at everything involving gfx

alright, all true.

Beam me up scotty??
there is a MVC2 one and a edited MVC2 one. if made bigger it might actually look nice. its like a shin akuma MVC2. ill find the link or upload it myself if you want to get a good Beam for Akuma. That is if you don't find a nice one yourself. which ofc is If you go with one.  

(i can't get Akuma to work on 1.0 and some of infinites Char's don't work on 1.1 i have a dilemma)

What char's dont work on 1.1? I seem to have no troubles here. But if this is about gfx change in 1.1 then yes I've had to adapt 29 of my 110 characters due to them having "black sprites" which is caused by the new 'trans' setting and how the sprites are processed. Still having do to Dragonslayers's  jin kazama ^^

They work, but the AI doesn't work. since i usually use the same char over and over and fight each other char. i don't know the full list right now. i know sean, mai, maki, Cody, Ryo, Gill (Race's Gill), Robert. ill Edit this post if i find more

very weird the AI on mine works perfectly fine. Do you work with infinite round time or standard round time?  The new lvl 3 super will be a new anim stance followed by a gou-hadouken that when it connects stuns the enemy. Akuma will teleport towards the enemy do a couple of kicks and a new gou-shoryuken, jumps in the air and then unleashes a giant diagonal beam.

999 time
Is that the SDM version?? SDM's are usually top notch like that.
So if he is getting his SGS command back, Can he keep his SDM version too?? without running. i always wanted to pull off a double SGS. i just noticed it last night.

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:Ye the no supercancel of the kick is on purpose because if you hit you get a wall bounce anyway which is unrecoverable and more favorable to do another move rather then a super since any basic follow-up also provides a guaranteed super.

Atm I'm leaning more towards a projectile but I need to carefully see what I can do because I'm not a spriter and I suck generally at everything involving gfx

alright, all true.

Beam me up scotty??
there is a MVC2 one and a edited MVC2 one. if made bigger it might actually look nice. its like a shin akuma MVC2. ill find the link or upload it myself if you want to get a good Beam for Akuma. That is if you don't find a nice one yourself. which ofc is If you go with one.  

(i can't get Akuma to work on 1.0 and some of infinites Char's don't work on 1.1 i have a dilemma)

What char's dont work on 1.1? I seem to have no troubles here. But if this is about gfx change in 1.1 then yes I've had to adapt 29 of my 110 characters due to them having "black sprites" which is caused by the new 'trans' setting and how the sprites are processed. Still having do to Dragonslayers's  jin kazama ^^

They work, but the AI doesn't work. since i usually use the same char over and over and fight each other char. i don't know the full list right now. i know sean, mai, maki, Cody, Ryo, Gill (Race's Gill), Robert. ill Edit this post if i find more

very weird the AI on mine works perfectly fine. Do you work with infinite round time or standard round time?  The new lvl 3 super will be a new anim stance followed by a gou-hadouken that when it connects stuns the enemy. Akuma will teleport towards the enemy do a couple of kicks and a new gou-shoryuken, jumps in the air and then unleashes a giant diagonal beam.

999 time
Is that the SDM version?? SDM's are usually top notch like that.
So if he is getting his SGS command back, Can he keep his SDM version too?? without running. i always wanted to pull off a double SGS. i just noticed it last night.

The normal version is without the beam. The SDM version is with the beam. Yes he will get his SGS command back and will retain the SDM SGS and Ill switch it back to asura instead of running. I expect it to all be ready by friday.

Try changing it to no limit with the time. I know some variables get fucked up by time stamps in conversion. Weird cuz I don't have any problems with the AI

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:Ye the no supercancel of the kick is on purpose because if you hit you get a wall bounce anyway which is unrecoverable and more favorable to do another move rather then a super since any basic follow-up also provides a guaranteed super.

Atm I'm leaning more towards a projectile but I need to carefully see what I can do because I'm not a spriter and I suck generally at everything involving gfx

alright, all true.

Beam me up scotty??
there is a MVC2 one and a edited MVC2 one. if made bigger it might actually look nice. its like a shin akuma MVC2. ill find the link or upload it myself if you want to get a good Beam for Akuma. That is if you don't find a nice one yourself. which ofc is If you go with one.  

(i can't get Akuma to work on 1.0 and some of infinites Char's don't work on 1.1 i have a dilemma)

What char's dont work on 1.1? I seem to have no troubles here. But if this is about gfx change in 1.1 then yes I've had to adapt 29 of my 110 characters due to them having "black sprites" which is caused by the new 'trans' setting and how the sprites are processed. Still having do to Dragonslayers's  jin kazama ^^

They work, but the AI doesn't work. since i usually use the same char over and over and fight each other char. i don't know the full list right now. i know sean, mai, maki, Cody, Ryo, Gill (Race's Gill), Robert. ill Edit this post if i find more

very weird the AI on mine works perfectly fine. Do you work with infinite round time or standard round time?  The new lvl 3 super will be a new anim stance followed by a gou-hadouken that when it connects stuns the enemy. Akuma will teleport towards the enemy do a couple of kicks and a new gou-shoryuken, jumps in the air and then unleashes a giant diagonal beam.

999 time
Is that the SDM version?? SDM's are usually top notch like that.
So if he is getting his SGS command back, Can he keep his SDM version too?? without running. i always wanted to pull off a double SGS. i just noticed it last night.

The normal version is without the beam. The SDM version is with the beam. Yes he will get his SGS command back and will retain the SDM SGS and Ill switch it back to asura instead of running. I expect it to all be ready by friday.

Try changing it to no limit with the time. I know some variables get fucked up by time stamps in conversion. Weird cuz I don't have any problems with the AI

Found the Issue. in the Folder with the notepad thing i pressed 9 instead of 8. which made them stupid.

Now another issue to tackle.

Air-combo's aren't "infinite"
Ryu/Evil Ryu and Cammy i know have infinite use of their air normals. So i'm wondering why Akuma doesn't have infinite use of his. ill get near the end of my combo and the person just drops through my attacks. Esp when using his Tatsu during a combo, that makes the count lower even more. i want to see the Extent of his ability to combo but i can't while this issue is there.

Air Tatsu and his D, DF, F +K move can't be used in the same combo either. That's about all for now. He can pretty much use over 3Bars from anywhere on the stage.

XRagingxDemonX wrote:Now another issue to tackle.

Air-combo's aren't "infinite"
Ryu/Evil Ryu and Cammy i know have infinite use of their air normals. So i'm wondering why Akuma doesn't have infinite use of his. ill get near the end of my combo and the person just drops through my attacks. Esp when using his Tatsu during a combo, that makes the count lower even more. i want to see the Extent of his ability to combo but i can't while this issue is there.

Air Tatsu and his D, DF, F +K move can't be used in the same combo either. That's about all for now. He can pretty much use over 3Bars from anywhere on the stage.

I was trying to create some sort of balance but maybe you're right he is a boss after all. Fuck it. Do me a favor and write the longest combo you want to do.

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:Now another issue to tackle.

Air-combo's aren't "infinite"
Ryu/Evil Ryu and Cammy i know have infinite use of their air normals. So i'm wondering why Akuma doesn't have infinite use of his. ill get near the end of my combo and the person just drops through my attacks. Esp when using his Tatsu during a combo, that makes the count lower even more. i want to see the Extent of his ability to combo but i can't while this issue is there.

Air Tatsu and his D, DF, F +K move can't be used in the same combo either. That's about all for now. He can pretty much use over 3Bars from anywhere on the stage.

I was trying to create some sort of balance but maybe you're right he is a boss after all. Fuck it. Do me a favor and write the longest combo you want to do.

Lol Capcom has already Raped Boss Chars. with "Balance." Games are getting too easy and it doesn't take more than 1 try to beat Bosses anymore.

(Forward MK standing. doesn't combo either, so i don't tend to try to ground starters. Air combo Rises the Opponent too far so MK isn't always used during an Air combo either, also b/c the low counter.)

(Standing HP doesn't launch either)

Keys:

5hits - "LP-LK-MP-MK-HP"
-T.Zankuu = Tenma Gou Zankuu
-T. Heki = Tenma Shinzui Heki
-HGZan = Hyakki Gou Zan
-MGHadou. = Messatsu Gou Hadou
-JGSG = Joudan Gou Sutokou Geri
-TGS = Tsuki Gou Sai
-T.Kyaku = Tenma Gou Kujin Kyaku
-SHK = Shakunetsu Hadou Ken
-ZH = Zugai Hasatsu
-HGS = Hyakki Gou Shou

Desired Combos:

Wall(Basic): SRK, T.Zankuu, Jump, 5hits, T.Zankuu, Jump, 5hits, Tatsu, SRK, T.Heki, JGSG, Tatsu, jump, 5hits, T.Kyaku, TGS, JGSG, SRK or any fireball. End of Combo

Mid-stage: SRK, T.Zankuu, HGZan, MGHadou, HGZan, SRK, T.Zankuu, 5hits, Tatsu, SRK, T.Zankuu/T.Heki. (<-this is where the combo Drops). Follow-ups: JGSG, Tatsu, jump, 5hits, T.Kyaku, TGS, JGSG, SRK or SHK. End of Combo

another Mid-stage: SRK, T.Heki, SRK, Kongou Kokuretsu Zan. (It Basically Drops here, unless at the wall) Follow-ups: HGZan, Tatsu, T.Kyaku, SRK.

Depending on how much Bar i get from all of that, then maybe an MGH or w/e. Or Keep whateve Bar.


If you can get Zugai Hasatsu to perform like UMVC3 (being it can combo into and knocked the person away leaving them airborn) and Hyakki Gou Shou to ground bounce, there are some other combo's too.

These are ground combo starters:

Wall: 4hits (without HP), ZH, HGS, (This combo has an Alternative (alt) from here) SRK, T.Zankuu into whatever long follow-up combo

Alt: following HGS, Heavy Tatsu, T.Zankuu on the last hit. Then again whatever possible follow-up.

Leave SRK to be able to be used at least double the amount Ryu/Evil Ryu can, they do 2 so at least 4. Also since Ryu can also use his D, DF, F +2K to give him another possible SRK, Let his T. Heki have that property (idk how you can achieve this manually, it kinda seems like a glitch lol, but its useful)

Any of his moves shouldn't determine wether or not he is able to use his other moves in a combo a certain amount of times. Cept his Kongou Kokuretsu Zan. which should eat up one of everything.

That's it for now

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:Now another issue to tackle.

Air-combo's aren't "infinite"
Ryu/Evil Ryu and Cammy i know have infinite use of their air normals. So i'm wondering why Akuma doesn't have infinite use of his. ill get near the end of my combo and the person just drops through my attacks. Esp when using his Tatsu during a combo, that makes the count lower even more. i want to see the Extent of his ability to combo but i can't while this issue is there.

Air Tatsu and his D, DF, F +K move can't be used in the same combo either. That's about all for now. He can pretty much use over 3Bars from anywhere on the stage.

I was trying to create some sort of balance but maybe you're right he is a boss after all. Fuck it. Do me a favor and write the longest combo you want to do.

Lol Capcom has already Raped Boss Chars. with "Balance." Games are getting too easy and it doesn't take more than 1 try to beat Bosses anymore.

(Forward MK standing. doesn't combo either, so i don't tend to try to ground starters. Air combo Rises the Opponent too far so MK isn't always used during an Air combo either, also b/c the low counter.)

(Standing HP doesn't launch either)



Keys:

5hits - "LP-LK-MP-MK-HP"
-T.Zankuu = Tenma Gou Zankuu
-T. Heki = Tenma Shinzui Heki
-HGZan = Hyakki Gou Zan
-MGHadou. = Messatsu Gou Hadou
-JGSG = Joudan Gou Sutokou Geri
-TGS = Tsuki Gou Sai
-T.Kyaku = Tenma Gou Kujin Kyaku
-SHK = Shakunetsu Hadou Ken
-ZH = Zugai Hasatsu
-HGS = Hyakki Gou Shou

Desired Combos:

Wall(Basic): SRK, T.Zankuu, Jump, 5hits, T.Zankuu, Jump, 5hits, Tatsu, SRK, T.Heki, JGSG, Tatsu, jump, 5hits, T.Kyaku, TGS, JGSG, SRK or any fireball. End of Combo

Mid-stage: SRK, T.Zankuu, HGZan, MGHadou, HGZan, SRK, T.Zankuu, 5hits, Tatsu, SRK, T.Zankuu/T.Heki. (<-this is where the combo Drops). Follow-ups: JGSG, Tatsu, jump, 5hits, T.Kyaku, TGS, JGSG, SRK or SHK. End of Combo

another Mid-stage: SRK, T.Heki, SRK, Kongou Kokuretsu Zan. (It Basically Drops here, unless at the wall) Follow-ups: HGZan, Tatsu, T.Kyaku, SRK.

Depending on how much Bar i get from all of that, then maybe an MGH or w/e. Or Keep whateve Bar.


If you can get Zugai Hasatsu to perform like UMVC3 (being it can combo into and knocked the person away leaving them airborn) and Hyakki Gou Shou to ground bounce, there are some other combo's too.

These are ground combo starters:

Wall: 4hits (without HP), ZH, HGS, (This combo has an Alternative (alt) from here) SRK, T.Zankuu into whatever long follow-up combo

Alt: following HGS, Heavy Tatsu, T.Zankuu on the last hit. Then again whatever possible follow-up.

Leave SRK to be able to be used at least double the amount Ryu/Evil Ryu can, they do 2 so at least 4. Also since Ryu can also use his D, DF, F +2K to give him another possible SRK, Let his T. Heki have that property (idk how you can achieve this manually, it kinda seems like a glitch lol, but its useful)

Any of his moves shouldn't determine wether or not he is able to use his other moves in a combo a certain amount of times. Cept his Kongou Kokuretsu Zan. which should eat up one of everything.

That's it for now

wow thx but this is prone to infinite combo's all over the place xD. This will take some thought process to make happen though.

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:

Selfish wrote:

XRagingxDemonX wrote:Now another issue to tackle.

Air-combo's aren't "infinite"
Ryu/Evil Ryu and Cammy i know have infinite use of their air normals. So i'm wondering why Akuma doesn't have infinite use of his. ill get near the end of my combo and the person just drops through my attacks. Esp when using his Tatsu during a combo, that makes the count lower even more. i want to see the Extent of his ability to combo but i can't while this issue is there.

Air Tatsu and his D, DF, F +K move can't be used in the same combo either. That's about all for now. He can pretty much use over 3Bars from anywhere on the stage.

I was trying to create some sort of balance but maybe you're right he is a boss after all. Fuck it. Do me a favor and write the longest combo you want to do.

Lol Capcom has already Raped Boss Chars. with "Balance." Games are getting too easy and it doesn't take more than 1 try to beat Bosses anymore.

(Forward MK standing. doesn't combo either, so i don't tend to try to ground starters. Air combo Rises the Opponent too far so MK isn't always used during an Air combo either, also b/c the low counter.)

(Standing HP doesn't launch either)



Keys:

5hits - "LP-LK-MP-MK-HP"
-T.Zankuu = Tenma Gou Zankuu
-T. Heki = Tenma Shinzui Heki
-HGZan = Hyakki Gou Zan
-MGHadou. = Messatsu Gou Hadou
-JGSG = Joudan Gou Sutokou Geri
-TGS = Tsuki Gou Sai
-T.Kyaku = Tenma Gou Kujin Kyaku
-SHK = Shakunetsu Hadou Ken
-ZH = Zugai Hasatsu
-HGS = Hyakki Gou Shou

Desired Combos:

Wall(Basic): SRK, T.Zankuu, Jump, 5hits, T.Zankuu, Jump, 5hits, Tatsu, SRK, T.Heki, JGSG, Tatsu, jump, 5hits, T.Kyaku, TGS, JGSG, SRK or any fireball. End of Combo

Mid-stage: SRK, T.Zankuu, HGZan, MGHadou, HGZan, SRK, T.Zankuu, 5hits, Tatsu, SRK, T.Zankuu/T.Heki. (<-this is where the combo Drops). Follow-ups: JGSG, Tatsu, jump, 5hits, T.Kyaku, TGS, JGSG, SRK or SHK. End of Combo

another Mid-stage: SRK, T.Heki, SRK, Kongou Kokuretsu Zan. (It Basically Drops here, unless at the wall) Follow-ups: HGZan, Tatsu, T.Kyaku, SRK.

Depending on how much Bar i get from all of that, then maybe an MGH or w/e. Or Keep whateve Bar.


If you can get Zugai Hasatsu to perform like UMVC3 (being it can combo into and knocked the person away leaving them airborn) and Hyakki Gou Shou to ground bounce, there are some other combo's too.

These are ground combo starters:

Wall: 4hits (without HP), ZH, HGS, (This combo has an Alternative (alt) from here) SRK, T.Zankuu into whatever long follow-up combo

Alt: following HGS, Heavy Tatsu, T.Zankuu on the last hit. Then again whatever possible follow-up.

Leave SRK to be able to be used at least double the amount Ryu/Evil Ryu can, they do 2 so at least 4. Also since Ryu can also use his D, DF, F +2K to give him another possible SRK, Let his T. Heki have that property (idk how you can achieve this manually, it kinda seems like a glitch lol, but its useful)

Any of his moves shouldn't determine wether or not he is able to use his other moves in a combo a certain amount of times. Cept his Kongou Kokuretsu Zan. which should eat up one of everything.

That's it for now

wow thx but this is prone to infinite combo's all over the place xD. This will take some thought process to make happen though.

I can Do half of these combo's to a certain point with Akuma already... cept the standing combo's. The ones that start with SRK. Cept the one that uses LVL super, stop after the fourth Super. That's why they are so long, i just know i can do more Lol. It is Shin Akuma, he used to just juggle with Tatsu all day from SFA3. (Yes i am one) So the only thing more is just the few follow-ups.

Plus its only fair since Evil Ryu can get a huge combo with good timing of his F, D, DF + HK. I just figured everybody knows a huge combo like-wise. Most if not all combo's i have take up 4bars.

Sorry for double post...

Yeah i can do the combo that i mentioned to the 4th Hyper explained in the long description in my previous post. Its only in training mode b/c while the opponent is able to get up a bit early, it hinders my ability to do it VS CPU (By Myself... I have pulled it off with Evil Ryu throwing a SRK right before the person Landed.)

Since Evil Ryu can just use his Heavy F, D, DF + HK to pop someone back up into the air to an infinite time. I suggested Akuma be able to do it twice without fail.

Holy shit, I didn't know other people were making Infinite style edits and posting them here.

I've been wanting an Akuma in this style since I found this site.

So much thanks, man. I'll try it ASAP and get back to you.

Mm, right now it's a little too similar to PotS' version for my taste, not a bad thing in general but I've used it way too often. It's getting there, though, and I'll try the next version for sure, but for now I'm sticking with my favorite version of Akuma in mugen, R@CE45's edit of DarkCipherLucius's version.

The only thing I found that's an actual bug is that the level three hypers can't be performed with X+A, the dodge or roll always comes out instead.

Snakebyte wrote:Mm, right now it's a little too similar to PotS' version for my taste, not a bad thing in general but I've used it way too often. It's getting there, though, and I'll try the next version for sure, but for now I'm sticking with my favorite version of Akuma in mugen, R@CE45's edit of DarkCipherLucius's version.

The only thing I found that's an actual bug is that the level three hypers can't be performed with X+A, the dodge or roll always comes out instead.

I was also thinking it was really close to pots version. Idk what the changes infinite did that made it really different. Maybe the hit effects?? Also his command normals don't connect either. His over-head doesn't need to connect from a combo B/c you can already follow up with things. senpuu kyaku would be useful if it acted like mvc 3 version. Think you can get his messatsu gohado (air also) blink red and purple like in alpha 3. Idk what needs to be changed to get a different feel.

Hello selfish how doing today I'm am a new member to this site and I really enjoy your updated characters its totally awesome  , by the way I have a question do you plan to do any more Street fighter character updates such as Darkstalkers or Rival Schools or Capcom characters???....There was one Capcom character I thought of that can be a decent update and that Character is Strider Hien it would be great to see and update version of him